What do you mean by "in canon"? What about the previous War Within comics and toyline? How is that not canon? It fits perfectly with the Dreamwave G1 comics continuity.

As for BB, saw this this morning and it looks VERY nice. Frist Prime, now BB. I wonder who's next.

And as for it being the next TV series, I wouldn't jump ahead to conclusions just yet. We don't want to get people's hopes up too high if it isn't. All that we know for sure of the new series is that Sue Blu is the casting director for it, and both Michael Bell and David Sobolov have auditioned for roles in it (Bell auditioned for the roles of Ratchet and "General Fowler"), which isn't much to go on.

OK after all of the movie Bumble Bee's I have to admit this one looks cool. As for the upcoming TV series I agree with SaberBlade, it would be cool if the game toys and show would all play into each other,but let's not get our hopes up, at least not yet.

Canon means Hasbro says thats what happens. Just like STARWARS anything in print comic or novel wise .. is what COULD happen. In other words.. the comics WAR WITH IN .. didn't!!!!!!! happen by HASBRO standards.

They did in the Dreamwave G1 comics continuity. They may not have happened in the War for Cybertron storyline, but that's its own story. Basically, everything in Transformers can be considered canon in its own universal stream. The War Within comics had occured within Primax 1002.9 Gamma, whereas the War for Cybertron is stated to take place in (something*) 710.22 Kappa.

*I say "something" as it is currently not known 100% for sure if the War for Cybertron game will be in Primax or not.

If WFC is "cannon" that does not mean that War Within is not. War Within took place very early in the Autobot/Decepticon war. WFT takes place just before they come to earth.

The "General Fowler" part seems to be a contradiction. If it's a human general, then the series can't be WFC... hmmmm

What makes War Within a little fuzzy as being part of 'my' cannon is that the events don't altogether jive with the early depictions of the war as told in early G1 cartoon series.

ok let me clear this up. IF its in print ( comics ?novels) its not cannon!!! unless HASBRO says so. ( just like all the STARWARS comics and novels are not cannon, unless Lucus says so ( or its a game first ( ie which he oked and said yes, because it came from Lucus arts)) so if this is before G1 and they came to earth.. that means HASBRO is saysing the comics are not part of the G1 canon. To many people try to link things together when there is no bridge to begain with. So look at it this way. Unless HAsbro says its before WAR with In comcis. its not part of the G1 Cartoon cannon. because we all know the comics weren't even close to the cartoon ( ie: Dinobots! alive before earth or built on earth (birthed))

Archer. Everything produced under license fromhasbro and Takara is CANON*. This includes War Within. Star Wars, standards are different since they use a canon hierarchy and it consists of a single ongoing continuity. Transformers is a multiversal collection of continuities connected by Primus, Unicron, and the Original Thirteen. The G1 cartoon is not the entirety of G1 canon. The Marvel comics were as well, so is the Dreamwave comics, the Ladybird childrens books, etc. All were produced under license, officially sanctioned by Hasbro. They're all canon. They simply happen to take place in different continuities.

*note the spelling. A "cannon" is a weapon, "Canon" is material that officially sanctioned by a specific authorative body (in this case, Hasbro)

Thank you Tramp. That's what I was trying to say. The War Within is canon to the Dreamwave G1 Comics timeline. I never said anything about it being canon to any other timeline. Not the G1 cartoon, not the G1 Marvel Comics, not G1 IDW comics. Nothing.

What Perceptor was saying about it not fitting with "his" canon is what's called "fan canon" or "fanon". Fanon is not official by any standards and only applies to the personal beliefs and ideas of said fan.

Star Wars fiction contains but one single reality (at least one, that is). Transformers, however, has at least 75,890,007 different realities, with at least 15,962,782 of those identified and catalogued by the ever-knowledgeable TransTech Cybertronians in Axiom Nexus.

This toy is real well made. I Must get it.